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Deonte Welch and Julian Horton have orally committed to Arkansas.
* 1:44 Daunte Carr has orally committed to the Hogs.
Jatashun ‘Big Tex’ Beachum is solid. He had a great visit and he said he’s signing with the Hogs on Feb. 3.
Jordan Rainey is all on board with Arkansas. The new OL coach really impressed him.
Byran Jones did not commitment to Auburn after taking an official visit there this weekend. He’s suppose to visit Fayetteville next weekend.
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will they take the commits….that is the question
Yes. They took their commitments.
Thanks Richard, how many spots do we have left?
Did we take Byrd’s commitment?
Also, what position is Welch projected to play?
Did we take Byrd’s commitment?
By Phil on Jan 17, 2010 @ 10:33am | Edit
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Last I heard they did not. I haven’t heard anything to make me think otherwise.
Richard, what position is Welch projected to play?
I think Horton is a good get but Welch is very questionable could we not get better?
I think Welsh was a CB recruit.
Welch and Horton are being recruited as receivers.
Welch is one of those great athletes that could play CB, S or WR. He’s going to start out at WR.
He’s listed as 5-11 but he’s 6-0. That’s what he said he is and I stood next to him and he looks the 6-0.
What about Humphrey now? Would we take his commitment (if he tried)?
Thanks Richard!
Like Phil said, are we done with Humphrey?
WOW, We are really adding depth at WR. Wade will be a stud Bennett has to much talent not to play WR Horton looked good on film. Hope yhr DT from FL commits really need him
We had better leave room on recruit numbers for 3 more on Defensive line. I don’t see how you can refer to Welch as a great athelete are any other top level football programs breaking down thre doors to get him?
I just realized that Elton Ford was a 5.2 2-Star and Matt Hall was a 4-Start.
Elton changes the defense and Hall is transferring due to lack of PT.
Interesting
Can you tell us update on status about DTs Calvin Smith, Bryan Jones, Sean Wstson, etc.
What in the world is this staff doing? Recruiting is a trainwreck right now.
I just noticed Ryan Mallett was a 5 star and now is getting touted as the 1st pick in next year’s draft and as a legitimate Heisman candidate. Interesting…
This is totally messed up! What are they thinking? I know I’m not the coach but it keeps getting more and more disappointing. Why did they give a scholorship to Welch? He was unranked and didn’t have an offer from anyone…anyone! Another offensive project is something we do not need.
Absolutely horrific….
Richard – what did carr think of his visit? I sorta expected a commit from him
I need to correct my fellow Hog from Texas who earlier stated that we have never beaten Georgia. We are 3-9 against the Dawgs. Won our first trip to Athens as an SEC team under Danny Ford. Ford went 1-1 against UGA. Nutt went 0-5. Petrino is 0-1.
I still blame that loss on that ridiculous early bye week on our schedule … that and Franklin’s ejection. Dogs had played at Okie State and home against the Gamecocks and we had just played Mo State.
We should all trust our coaches’ judgment on which recruits we need.
Our coaches have shown the past two years that they are trustworthy, and good at what they do. Notice the football product that they put on the field last year.
Taking Welch is a waste of a schollie we need to use on DT, DE, LB, S.
SO frustrating.
Thanks for the research. I was just going on recent or meaningful history. But you can blame that loss on the bye week all you want. I blame it on HORRIBLE defensive coaching by slick Willy.
Folks, we are in big trouble with this class. I’m sorry Richard, I have much respect for you in regards to your profession, but this class has some bad choices. There are a few nice players. But it’s mostly an embarassment for a SEC team that expects to compete for a division or conference title.
Were ranked 49th on Scout.com and 55th on Rivals. Rivals doesn’t have the 2 guys on there that just committed. But Welch isn’t even ranked. I think the staff has come to the realization that we’ve got to get anyone who will say yes now.
My contact here in the DFW area just told me that Beachum isn’t going to sign with us. Looks like another one were gonna lose to Oklahoma. Pathetic….
All you experts crack me up. These coaches make their living doing this. They have years of experience with evaluating the few snippets of video, talking with coaches, analyzing these kids in person to find talented players. You experts, sit in your family den, watch a little you tube, read what others think, and decry the actions of our coaches – who unlike you will get fired if they are wrong. You base that on a kid not having enough STARS next to his name, or the fact some website has the kid as “not evaluated”, regardless of the fact the recruiting websites get it wrong (a 2* turns into a good college player and the 5* never pans out) just as much as they get it right. They rate these kids on reputation. There are thousands of HS players, and guess what, they can’t fully and objectively evaluate them all. Since the coaches careers are on the line, and they have proven records (unlike you guys), I will trust they see something in these kids that will translate to success in this program.
Just because a kid does not have an offer from “anyone” does not mean they don’t have the same tools as a highly regarded prospect. You guys can write-off the program and coaches because we don’t have enough “stars” but I am going to give the guys whose livelihood depends on it the benefit of the doubt.
RD just said Beachum was absolutely solid.
Trainwreck? How so JT? Might not be the most highly rated class Petrino will ever have but there are some real standouts in the group and not only on the O… Smith and Gaston for example have the potential to be an intimidating pair of linebackers down the road. What I also see falling into place is accomplished and talented coaches at every level who will develop every ounce of talents in the recruits we get… just waiting for a new kick ass DC with fire in his belly to be named… and the foundation for a run at the National Championship will be in place.
Just mho… and damn sure worth what you paid for it!
Richard, How did the DT from FL look? Was he the 6`3 arounf 300 as listed? Same question for Gatson? Do you see him as a LB or growing into a DE?
I hope to hell he proves you guys wrong over the next 4 years. CBP and staff have a good idea of what’s going on. I have no idea what kind of talent this kid has or what he will do on the next level, but maybe CBP sees something in him that others don’t. Pretty sure alot of the kids that Boise St. recruits aren’t raking in big time offers either and they seem to do pretty well against higher rated guys. We may look back at this class and shake our heads in a few years, but until I see these guys play a snap, I’m not going to poor mouth them. If we don’t bring in at least 2 more D linemen though I will have some questions myself. Maybe we’ll figure out that those 3 “silent commits” are from the dline.
Gaston didn’t make the trip, he’s coming in next weekend with Bennett and Barnett, I’m assuming to add a little more Oklahoma flavor, to try and get Barnett to be a Hog.
Why can’t these coaches see in person what posters can see from thei keyboards? Petrino’s kids are not being held hostage by Welch’s army until he is offered. Neither Petrino as Paul is recruiting Welch for Illini. If he had no talent the coaches are the ones who’s livlihood depends on winning. I’m sure negative comments can get back to recruits. Get more Rivals subscribers and your school gets better rankings. UGA,Bama, UF, ND, UTexas mentions a kid and his rankings jump. Trust the professionals who’s job and reputation are on the line and “Dance with who brung ya.”
I like how some people still continue to bash CBP recruits before they even suit up in an Arkansas uniform. There is an estimated million plus high school football players in the US, how do you expect the recruiting gurus to evaluate every single one of those player. There is not one coach that would offer a scholarship unless they believed that player would make their team better. Too many people are not looking at the big picture in the recruiting world. Each time we offer a player a scholarship we are building a relationship with that high-school and that high-school coach’s coaching circle. Enough of the recruit bashing and let’s give CBP the benefit of doubt and let’s see what happens in the big picture.
No doubt about it we need help on defense. BP has moved Colton Nash to DE. Does anyone know if we redshirted anyone else of relevance on defense? I know we’re going to be stacked on the OL with all the redshirt talent coming in … probably why Matt Hall left.
Ryan Calendar is also supposed to make a huge impact on the DL. 6-7 kid from Caddo Mills that can lay a hit.
Guys there isn’t a whole lot of difference from a 3 star recruit and a 5 star recruit. It all depends on the young men and their work ethic and desire. Coach Petrino is doing just fine, next year will be better recruiting. Ranking recruits is all opinion anyway. There are plenty of 2 and 3 star recruits playing on Sundays now. Let’s it takes several years to determine if a recruiting class is a success or not.
Found an interesting article on Deonte Welch. It describes him as a Jeremy Maclin or Percy Harvin type. Its an interesting read.
http://recruiting.blogs.gatorsports.com/10160/checkin-out-deonte-welch/
We don’t have several years to see if a science experiment with players that aren’t ranked and have offers from UAB and So. Miss to pan out. The SEC moves too fast and is too difficult.
I agree with those who wonder about Welch. Looks undersized.
It says on ESPN U from 2006 that Malcolm Shepperd ranked out at 40! I agree with David Baker that it depends on the coaching staff and the character of the young men as well as talent. You never know. Trust Petrino.
some of the comments on this board are hilarious.
clearly we need a few of you to take over for CBP and coach horton
There is so much acrimony over one or two guys and whether they can play D-line or not that I think some things get missed. Would you take the best player that “you” as a coach thing is available or take soneone else’s opinion for a player that “you” deem a project? I am not sure if there is anyone here that remembers taht D-Mac was actually recruited to be a safety but then Smith got hurt and he played too well for them to move him to that side of the ball. This recruiting looks like the old Florida State recruiting model. You take a big corner and make him a safety. A big safety becomes an outside linebacker the big LB’s are DE’s and the DE’s become DT’s. That is the same model used by TCU and other schools today. TCU’s All American DE was a high school running back. Gentlemen think Jamaal Anderson.
That’s what folks fall back on, when they can’t use anything to disagree with you.
“we should fire the coaches and hire you”
“we might as well not play this season”
prove us wrong. Show us where we are wrong. Trust me. We want to be.
All I know is that SEC teams that rank low in recruiting are the worst teams in the conference.
I just realized that Elton Ford was a 5.2 2-Star and Matt Hall was a 4-Start.
Elton changes the defense and Hall is transferring due to lack of PT.
Interesting
I just noticed Ryan Mallett was a 5 star and now is getting touted as the 1st pick in next year’s draft and as a legitimate Heisman candidate. Interesting…
OMG…can we give it a rest about the stars..yall r both right…sometimes they r right sometimes they arent
good article linked on hawgs illustrated by Florida writer that talks very positively about what a great athlete with speed Welch is. Someone here know how to bring the link. I think two great DT’s to close will calm most people down
this sky is falling mentality is real useful in life
I see a lot of people questioning Welch’s ability and the fact he was not offered by anyone else. He was offered by N.C. State, Vanderbilt, Tulane, South Florida and Fla. International. You should read the attached, you may change your mind about this kid.
http://recruiting.blogs.gatorsports.com/10160/check-out-deonte-welch/
again, we got two players committing today that can end up at WR, S, corner. either one.
they liked something about them.
we were always going to take another wide receiver and we are going to have a mass exodus of corner backs after next year.
i dont see a problem in either of these commitments.
also, it takes a lot of receivers to run our offense.
Hopefully all these recruits you’re criticizing will prove it to you. Let’s turn it around Mr p. You prove to us they’re bad pik ups. Whoops there’s no way to prove it eitherway til they get on the field or don’t get on the field.
5 Stars – Mitch Mustain and Gary Brasheres Jr. = total wastes
East Carolina entire D-Line – 2 stars
CBP is above reproach
Brett Favre = Satan
Thanks for that link, Big Daddy. It does make me feel better about the kid. We can use as many speedy playmakers we can get.
Well it’s not this class that’s going to win the SEC this year anyway!!! Can we enjoy what this season’s has to hold… I’m hoping we red-shirt most of this class anyway!
This will be the worst ranked class in Arkansas history. Even dumb arse Nutt never had a class ranked this poorly.
Having a good attitude is never a bad thing, but it doesnt change the facts in the end. I am a Realist, not an idealist.
Yep. We started more freshmen than any other team in the SEC for the second year in a row. The 2011 class is the critical one and we are looking really strong there already.
Darren was never gonna be anything but a RB. Period. Danny Nutt watched that kid since he was in the 9th grade. Welch was NOT offered by anyone but us. He had interest and his own choices, but no offers. My brother in law is a NC St grad and he looked it up for me.
Also, I understand that we are all fans. Some of us have a higher standard of our program other than just waving the flag and putting on a shirt. We all support them though. It’s not right for people to attack us personally because we are informed, do research, and point out facts.
No one said the sky was falling. But, again, if people here think that being at the bottom of the conference in recruiting every other year and 35th and below nationally is gonna get players to win a division or conference title, you kidding yourselves.
BP and his staff better realize that… I’m sure that they do. But, this isn’t Louisville or the Big East….
You mean you are a Rivalist. You have no factual proof that this class won’t end up top ten after rerankings, because it could. What has CP done to question rather he should offer a scholarship or not? Rankings are not facts. Its fun to follow but I wouldn’t bet on their overall accuracy. Just seems unreal that before they have played to question there abilities in Petrino offered.
The additional WR’s are interesting considering everyone we have coming back and off of redshirt. And, considering the few scholarships we have left to offer.
Here’s hoping we really impress Bryan Jones! And, hopefully Big Tex understands he’ll be a DL!!
TX Hog Fan:
You don’t know what you are talking about. I-D-I-O-T
Informed = not stating that Arkansas has never beaten Georgia … that Big Texas is out when RD says he is solid commit … and someone cite me the source that this is the worst ranked class in Arkansas history?
Cowboys are toast. Dang that Favre!
Well, worst ranked since Rivals has been in business ranking classes. Go look on the rivals site and look at each years rankings until you find us worse than 55th.
And we can’t blame it on Jessica Simpson anymore!
well we are 53rd now with Horton, but when Welch is added we will drop again.
I’m not thrilled with this class either, but I also think we don’t have enough scholies to rank very high … and if we end up at 55 I’ll concede that I am uninformed.
2002: 26th
2003: 29th
2004: 22nd
2005: 24th
2006: 26th
2007: 31st
2008: 36th
2009: 16th
2010: 53rd and falling
Yeah, we shouldnt be concerned. This class is perfectly fine and in line with the rest of our recruiting classes.
I wonder what this class would be ranked had we signed the SEC level talent from Arkansas.
Mr Perfect, with the exception of Dyer, the class would be no better. Dyer and Jones are the onloy two rated higher than who we have. Well, Sloan too but no significant SEC even offered him. It would make no difference.
Ark will have finish around 50 or so in recruiting, but will be preseason top 25. The poll I saw had Alabama, LSU, Georgia, and Arkansas in the preseason top 25.
this is not a heavy skill player class. and our schollies are limited.
hence, our ranking is going to be weighted low.
dont be naive. We have 21 now and will prob have 25. thats not much less than most others. And if you havent noticed we have tons of skilled players. More so than linemen actually.
The players just arent as good as last years.
hey guys, live and die off rivals rankings if you like.
Why accept commitmentas from Hortona and Welcjh without waiiting on the 3-4 DTs we are recruting now.
Next year is the year BUT if you don’t get some backup help at DT–all the Horton and Welch type players in the works won’t help for 2010.
We are lsing a HUGE BLOCK of out team after 2010 and will have a good number of juniors jumping to NFL–Mallett, Childs, Adams, etc.
Thanks for that link, Big Daddy. It’s great to have several playmakers. Too bad we only play with 1 ball.
Agree with everything except for 53rd and falling … we were in the 70s at one point not too long ago.
well when Welch and his no ranking gets thrown in then we will fall from 53rd.
you guys have to remember how strong we came on in the last two weeks last year.
this all isn’t even over yet. still lot’s of work to be done and high quality players left to give their commitment.
It is a little embarrissing when other schools talk about your new recruits and no one else recruited them.
Daunte Carr commits to Arkansas.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/arkansas/football/recruiting/player-Daunte-Carr-79783
thats three 6 footish 180 poundish commits today. Where’s the beef?
carr is at least 200 lbs.
We need to land Barnett and Jones.
barnett, jones, coleman, shaydun akuna all visiting next weekend.
next weekend is huge
I guess we are just getting what we can. This class blows my mind. It is the complete opposite of last year’s.
this class makes me want to cry. Im so disappointed.
The only “Ranking” that matters is the one at the end of the season. I will wait to decide. In the meantime, it is “root hog or die” for me.
Go Hogs, WPS.
i’m exact opp of you mrp. i think this class is filling in great.
most of these kids are going to redshirt and provide depth anyway.
and there are sure fire future starters in it, too.
MRP, are you glass half empty or half full kind of person. I’m going with half empty based on everything I read from you. Bring good Karma to your life and come with a constructive post. Here is a question for everyone who wants to post negative thoughts without backup. Would you rather have Bobby and staff take a 2-star and work with him or have the the ex-regime work with a 2-star? Who do you think will get more out of the player. 2-stars and even some 3′s are hungry to prove themselves to everyone. These kids are probably not as full of themselves and easier to teach. It is also possible that Bobby and staff saw something no one else saw. Remember they pay attention to detail. So sit back negative ones and let this all play out. If it doesn’t, then tell everyone “I told you so”. Until then “be a part of the solution, not the problem”. Out
The economy is doing great also huh?
these kids will do just fine. the razorbacks will be just fine. we really dont need any of these kids to be full time starters.
How big were you JT coming out of High School? How big are you now? Get my point. Remember we have the best weight room in America. Be patient. Get over the Chicken Little Syndrome people.
horton looks like a nice pick up. the kid had offers from alabama ucla ok state and north carolina.
I’d rather Petrino recruit a Top 10 class. He’s getting paid Top 10 money. Why do we have to choose between Petrino and a 2 star and Nutt and a 2 star?
Joe, I’m a realist. Last year’s class was amazing and I said it was. I call it like I see it. The solution is recruiting better. Petrino is a good coach, but who do you think is gonna win a game? Petrino and a bunch of 2 stars or Saban with 5 stars?
You guys used to complain how our previous staff couldn’t recruit and you based that on stars and recruiting rankings. Now, you’re singing a different song.
Thanks for proving my point MRP. Read my last line from above, if you don’t like your situation change it. By the way, I have your affliction as well but I am making the most of my situation. No sense in getting down. Too much in life to look forward to.
daunte carr is a nice pick up as well.
I believe Coleman has committed to Auburn.
What do you take for it?
Carr is a stud!! You guys saying this class is terrible are gonna be eating crow in a couple of weeks…I’ve heard we’re signing 28! Richard have you heard of the two “unnammed” recruits we’re bringing in next week… Players that no one is talking about??
No MRP ! You’renot a realist. You’re just a downer !
And Duante Carr commits: Who’s gonna dish this player? He is a get on the level with Chris Smith imo.
Welcome to the Hogs Mr Carr!
MRP, some times it comes down to scheming. If you’re an MMA fighter and your opponent is bigger than you but has a bad knee. Do you go to the body? No you go after his weaknesses. This is what we pay Bobby to do.
Was on Copaxon
coleman has been committed to auburn for 8 months. so what.
We need to land Welch. Forget about his stars. Sounds like he can play.
stars mean nothing unless you are in the top five. if anyone on here thinks they know more than petrino you have lost your mind. he is looking for a specific attitude and player and maybe the players he wants do or don’t have the public backing of the political nature of the recruiting service. every one of these guys is being recruited for a reason. if you dont have something positive to say don’t say it
No MRP ! You’renot a realist. You’re just a downer !
By Ron in Germany on Jan 17, 2010 @ 2:05pm
does Willy Nelson’s “Always On My Mind” pop in your head often?
We did Mike !
good lord people…think logically about this years class…
We have one of the youngest teams in the SEC, and across the country. We do not have early playing time to sell, especially at WR, RB, and QB. We just signed one of the top DB classes in the country last fall. Our 2-deep on defense is littered with freshmen and sophomores.
We’re not a program that can ask 4-star recruits to come in and redshirt and/or not get playing time until their junior year. We need to be able to offer them playing time, like last year. Recruits aren’t stupid, they can look up each teams depth chart with the click of a button.
I think we’ll have a 10+ win season next year and be able to tell recruits we’re an up-and-coming team (win totals increasing from 5 to 8 to 10) and they’ll have an opportunity to come in and be in the 2-deep their freshmen year and then possibly start by their sophomore year. And we’ll be winning, which obviously makes a difference.
Think about it. It’s not the end of the world.
Joe, why’d you get off Copaxone?
NO. But then again, Willie wasn’t fingernails on a chalkboard either.
Allergic reaction
Fingernails on a chalkboard? Well, it’d seem like you’d ignore it. Again, are you a glutton for punishment?
“If I made you feel second best, I’m sorry”.
You would be overrated !
Video of Horton
http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=69156&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncf%2frecruiting%2ftracker%2fplayer%3frecruitId%3d69156
Joe, you mind telling me your age?
I should start my own blog. I know I’d have at least one loyal reader!
You guys have fun, gotta go, kids want to play wii. Everyone play nice. Hey JT never heard back from you. MRP who do you go see for treatment? Are you in LR? I will check the board later for a response.
Richard how did Sean Watson’s visit go..? Is he going to be a Hog?
Rutherford is my neurologist.
I dont care if our class is ranked 90th in the country…! If we get TWO of these guys here… Byran Jones, Calvin Barnett, Sean Watson, Calvin Smith, or Delvin Jones! Im happy as long as they do better next class! But WE NEED atleast “FOUR” D Linemen and Five would be great! CBP FORGET THE SKILL PLAYERS! and finish strong on the “D LINE”!
Thanks Piglett for the video. Looks athletic. I’m gonna go.